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Club Piaggio • Ver tema - La frenada integral.
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NotaPublicado: 27 10 , 2005 8:44 am
por Janu

NotaPublicado: 27 10 , 2005 9:26 am
por HAL

NotaPublicado: 27 10 , 2005 9:33 am
por coldbeer
Lo siento, HAL, pero jojinson tiene razón. Con puntualizaciones, pues especialmente en las megascooters conviene empezar a frenar con el trasero, para "colocar" el peso en su sitio y preparar las supensiones, para luego frenar de verdad con el delantero. Amigo, lo que frena de verdad una moto es el freno delantero. El de atrás es un apoyo, como dijo jojinson.

En caso de suelo mojado, habrá que hacerlo con más cuidado, pero igualmente. Siempre intentar que si alguno de los dos tiene que bloquear, que sea el trasero y jamás el delantero.

Pero a mi parecer, jojinson se equivoca en otra cosa: frenar con el trasero y que éste bloquee es NO FRENAR. Una rueda trasera bloqueada apenas reducirá la velocidad del vehículo. Así que haber desconectado la frenada integral sólo hará que gastes más la rueda trasera. Si llegabas a bloquear la rueda delantera era simplemente porque estabas exigiéndole una frenada que no podía permitirse por las condiciones (asfalto, suciedad, mojado, pintura...) pero no harás que frene más.

Evidentemente, todo es relativo y si a tí y a tu manera de entender la conducción os va mejor con frenada NO-INTEGRAL, pues muchísimas felicidades... Seguro que alguno habría que cuando empezaron a salir los frenos de disco los cambiaría en su moto por unos de tambor para poder tener más tacto :lol: :twisted: Todo pasa con el tiempo, y éste sabe muy bien mostrar los aciertos y los errores... mucho mejor que nosotros, pobres mortales. ;)

NotaPublicado: 27 10 , 2005 10:55 am
por HAL

NotaPublicado: 27 10 , 2005 1:20 pm
por pajaroloco

NotaPublicado: 27 10 , 2005 3:25 pm
por smunoz

NotaPublicado: 02 11 , 2005 2:10 am
por coldbeer

NotaPublicado: 02 11 , 2005 3:11 am
por C172

NotaPublicado: 11 11 , 2005 2:14 pm
por jojinson

NotaPublicado: 11 11 , 2005 2:30 pm
por HAL
Vale jojinson, no voy a discutir tu ejemplo aunque se pudiera. Es como el cinturón de seguridad: en un caso de cada cien la puedes fastidiar por llevarlo puesto -por quedarte atrapado o lo que sea- pero eso no quiere decir que sea más seguro no ponérselo.
Saludos.

NotaPublicado: 11 11 , 2005 3:19 pm
por Mestral

NotaPublicado: 11 11 , 2005 5:49 pm
por jojinson

NotaPublicado: 12 11 , 2005 3:06 am
por Manuelo
Yo he tenido VespaS y 2 Burgman y me encantó la frenada combinada de la BURG 400.
Es mi experiencia personal.

NotaPublicado: 12 11 , 2005 5:09 am
por pajaroloco
Mestral estoy contigo, en que nunca sabes como vas a reaccionar. Pero la primera reaccion logica es apretar los frenos con intensidad (sobretodo el trasero...no se por que pero es asi). La pena es que si como se pone en esos ejemplos esta mojado, hay grasas, pisas la linea blanca,... te vas al suelo casi seguro si te actua la frenada integral. mientras que si lo hace solo la trasera, se te puede cruzar la moto ( es mas a mi esto me a pasado muchas veces), pero asi puedes controlarla ( no siempre!! Pero tienes muchas mas posibilidades que si te frena de delante).

No quiero decir que sobre un asfalto seco no sea mejor la integral. Al contrario y mas para los que no saben frenar aun. Pero dime... que por una carretera de curvas no es mejor por ejemplo si vas rapido una frenada convencional. Cuantas "RR's" llevan frenada combinada?? O cuantas motos del mundial (ya sea de carretera, cross, enduro o trial??? Creo que ninguna. Por algo sera, no?

Hay formas de pensar y esta es la mia. Se que tu lo ves desde otra perspectiva y lo respeto, pero lo que veo dificil es que nos pongamos de acuerdo.

Un saludo ;-)

NotaPublicado: 24 11 , 2005 2:59 pm
por X-wing